Tuesday, October 22, 2019
SNL/Impeachment Mash-up!
On Sunday, I had a piece in the Waco Trib about just how weird things might get in the impeachment inquiry/election/complete mess we face right now. Here is how that piece begins:
"Imagine it’s October 2020. Here’s one possible scenario for that moment a year from today: Mike Pence is running for president as the Republican nominee and incumbent against Donald Trump (running as an independent) and the Democratic nominee. Even as he runs, Trump is under indictment and wears an electronic ankle monitor as he campaigns. The incumbent vice president is a moderate, not on any of the tickets described above. Chaos? Perhaps. But the route to that outcome is paved with some of the more obscure clauses of the Constitution."
The original version, though was full of fun links and SNL references (Obviously, those were not going to fly in a print medium). So, without further ado, is that earlier version, with links:
What If Napoleon Had
a B-52? Or Trump Was Convicted By the Senate?
By Mark Osler
In 1978, an
early (and funny) Saturday Night Live bit played out an answer to the question
“What if Napoleon had a B-52 bomber?” Spoiler alert: things went better for him
at Waterloo. Only a few weeks ago, that possibility was as laughable as the
possibility of Donald Trump’s removal from office through impeachment by the
House and conviction by the Senate. But as events unfurl, the still-slim chance
of that outcome grow larger.
Which means it
is becoming worthwhile to consider the events that might follow Trump’s
conviction. What happens next might be stranger than you thought, with Donald
Trump running for president against Mike Pence, and a constitutional standoff
over a vacant vice-presidency. Intrigued? Me too. The chaos might rival that
which might have been created by Napoleon’s B-52, and it is all directed by a
handful of rarely-examined clauses in the Constitution.
If Trump were
convicted in the Senate, two wild and crazy
provisions of the Constitution will come into play. These are laid out in the
original language of the document, which covers impeachment in a few places.
First, Article II, §4 provides that if the president is convicted in the Senate
he “shall be removed from office.” Simple enough. But the twist comes in
Article I, §3, which separately provides that punishment can’t “extend further
than” removal from office and disqualification to hold any office in the
future.
Read together,
these provisions say that removal from office is mandatory if a president is
convicted in the Senate, but barring the convicted president from seeking
office is an optional punishment at the discretion of the Senate. That means
that the Senate could conceivably convict President Trump, triggering his
removal, but not bar him from future
office. Vice-President Mike Pence would ascend to the top spot, and presumably
have the inside track for the quickly-coming 2020 nomination. But, one can
easily imagine Donald Trump, now pushed out and angry, running in the
Republican primary or as an independent against his own former running mate.
He’s not going to go live in a van down by the river,
after all.
And the
craziness would not end there! Hidden away in the 25th Amendment is a provision
that gives the House of Representatives a veto on the choice of a new
vice-president. Since the House of Representatives is controlled by Democrats,
that could be a circus. What person in existence could meet the approval of
both Mike Pence and the House?
The 25th Amendment was passed in the
wake of the assassination of John F. Kennedy and addresses presidential
succession. Prior to that amendment, the Constitution was silent on succession
other than the vice-president succeeding the president. There was no provision
for picking a vice-president after that succession, though-- and several times
the office of vice-president remained vacant for years, until the next
presidential election.
The 25th
Amendment fixes the problem by requiring that when a vice-president ascends to
the presidency due to a death, impeachment or resignation, the new president
shall nominate a vice-president "who shall take office upon confirmation
by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress." In other words, if Mike
Pence becomes president because of impeachment or resignation of the President,
he would then have to find a vice-president that would meet the approval of the
Democrats who control the House of Representatives-- knowing that the nominee
will become a part of the administration and possibly become the new president
(for example, if Pence in turn is impeached).
And that’s not
all! As if we need more
cowbell...
If Donald
Trump was removed from office, Article I, §3 of the Constitution allows that he
would then “be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and
Punishment, according to law.” In other words, under the plain language of the
Constitution, he could be charged in federal court. And tangled up in all of
that might be a Trump self-pardon (issued before he was pushed out), of
questionable constitutional validity. Mayhem!
So where does
that leave us? In chaos of course: It is possible that as we await the return
of David S. Pumpkins
in October of 2020, we could find ourselves in the midst of a three-way battle
for president between Mike Pence, Donald Trump, and whatever Democrat survives
the primaries. Candidate Trump would be out on bond during the campaign,
perhaps with an electronic monitor strapped to his ankle. And Trump would have
a new running mate, of course (imagine the possibilities! Ivanka? Sean Hannity?).
And all the while, Congress and Pence would be trying to find the last moderate
standing in Washington to install as vice president for the next few
months—even as Pence’s running mate campaigned to fill that spot beginning in
January of 2021. It would be like watching an epic car crash.
I don’t mean
to be a complete Debbie
Downer, though—there is a significant bright spot to all of this. Resolution
of either crisis would require an employment of national virtues we currently
struggle to embody: compromise and healing. If a newly-ascended President Pence
were to get a vice-president approved by both houses of Congress, he would have
to track down that rarest of species: an accomplished moderate who is respected
by both sides. And Trump running for president—and likely losing—might stave
off some form of the “civil war” he has threatened, or at least convince his
supporters that there is a reason to stand down.
The
Constitution, even when it creates a modicum of chaos, has tended to push us to
be our better selves. The future may tell us if that is still true.
Comments:
So the new vice president in this scenario can be anybody, right? Doesn't have to be a sitting House or Senate member?
What person in existence could meet the approval of both Pence and the House? Veep Mark Osler?!
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So the new vice president in this scenario can be anybody, right? Doesn't have to be a sitting House or Senate member?
What person in existence could meet the approval of both Pence and the House? Veep Mark Osler?!
Toonces the Driving Cat: always, always loved him. Thanks for the memory.
Oh yeah, the column's good too.
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Oh yeah, the column's good too.
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