Wednesday, September 12, 2007

 

Capone and bin Laden


[UPDATE: You can now download the bin Laden article here. Just click the download box in the upper left at the link.]

There were a lot of great comments yesterday to to the 9/11 post. Sometimes I'm really impressed by the intelligence of those around me.

In reading those comments, especially the well-written post by Anonymous 12:54, I remember a little article I wrote after 9/11 which reflected some of what he was discussing. That article, Capone and bin Laden: The Failure of Government At The Cusp of War and Crime, 55 Baylor Law Review 603 (2003), was a little piece (12 pages) arguing that our system of government has a fundamental weakness which was exploited by both bin Laden and Al Capone. In short, we are good at fighting wars against large armies with our own centralized military and relatively good at fighting crime with our decentralized police forces. Our weakness is when acts of crime look like war and when acts of war look like crime, and fall into the gap between war and crime.

Al Capone essentially became a governmental body with an army, which made it very hard to confront him through the criminal justice system, while the army was not brought into the fight. With bin Laden, he committed acts of war which (up until the acts themselves) looked like crime. The military was unable (and remains unable) to catch him, which criminal justice was essentially not brought into the fight.

Good at war. Good at fighting crime. Not so good at the stuff in between.

Comments:
I've always thought "the long-arm of the law", whether it be domestically or internationally, has been firmly kept in America's back pocket until we fall flat on our ass and we need to pick ourselves up. We never seem to act quickly enough or follow through when tackling issues - but I’m certainly not advocating the use of force, just action.

But it's interesting that you draw the comparison between Capone and bin Laden. Do you think that their “success” of staying at large was more due to the support they received from the general populous rather than the cautious nature of American justice, at home and abroad? Capone seems to have had the support of the everyday blue-collar worker because he provided what the masses wanted (booze, gambling, prostitution) while bin Laden serves as a beacon of Muslim tradition and ideals.
 
Why I like this blog:
1. Serious, thoughtful commentary on weighty issues.
2. Goofy, inventive commentary on weighty issues.
3. Serious, thoughtful commentary on goofy issues.
4. Goofy inventive commentary on issues few people would consider issues.
5. Storage Jars and Lemon Curry
 
Thank you, Mr. Walleye. As you know, in person I am both weighty and goofy.
 
BLARF!!
 
Carver-- I think you are right that they both counted on support from the population within which they lived. Also, neither committed crimes which directly victimized that population. Interesting, though-- Capone lived in the open, and bin Laden in hiding.
 
SO in a sense Capone is really the better master criminal, because he does not hide in a cave. `
 
I like this blog a lot because I am really actually not that smart, but everyone is nice to me anyway.
 
After reading the article, it is interesting and somewhat disturbing to see (when applying the eight factor analysis) how different the "wars" we're fighting are, and how our government and enforcement groups do not have the tools or setup to fight those wars.

I was also intrigued to see that there was little mention of the character of violent crimes under the Capone section. From what I've read in a few books, the local law enforcement (but not the local politicians) in New York and Chicago had a "let them sort it out". Most of the violent crime was between the opposing criminal organizations and not on John Q. Public. Maybe another reason why we weren't so gung-ho to go after Scarface.
 
OK, I feel like I can go off topic now that Tyd and the Walleye have done so.

I missed several posts and wanted to add the following comments:

-Of COURSE you were unable to buy a Mac in Austin.... Austin, home of DELL COMPUTERS... Hello. Michael Dell probably bought off the Apple Store people in Austin long ago.

-I myself have had flights cancelled by American Eagle out of Waco on three occasions. Fortunately, I was able to steal your car last time.
 
Oh, and The Dada Drummer rocks. He/she is SO right on the unacceptable movies and kids names. Well mostly right. I still think "Eben" is doofy.
 
Not if it is Eben Ozen. "A...E... A...E I O U...U... and sometimes Y!"
 
OK, that's a cultural reference I don't get. Will Mamie E. Iplawbaby learn this at nursery school? Eben Ozen or Ebenezer? Both doofy.

The only person I can think of named "Eb" was Mr. Douglas' farmhand on Green Acres. And he was about as dumb a character as you can imagine.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtZDoE0Im1c&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fosodelsol%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F
 
Ok that is ONE WACKY video... Osler Warning. I think the French Or maybe japanese have taken over the Razor again....
 
You had me at 12 pages. Saved for review.

Best regards, and keep up the good works.
 
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